Donovan McNabb has been diagnosed with cracked ribs after the Eagles destroyed the Carolina Panthers 38-10 today.
While, Jake Delhomme’s atrocious five turnovers may have been the reason the Eagles were not challenged in this game, McNabb’s injury is the headline – as he was injured following a 3-yard touchdown run in the third quarter.
Kevin Kolb, who finished the game at quarterback as the Eagles also too time today to prove to all of us that he is not a capable backup. If McNabb plays next week, it is without a doubt because he knows that Kolb under center next week would be a disaster.
Tape it up Donovan. We have no other option.
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The kolb era has started. Based on the 2 starts and the numbers, he deserves to start for the whole season. I am sold. Please have him start the whole season. Please.
He gets my pro bowl vote. Pairface you are all knowing. I do not know why anyone on this board or anyon in general should question your opinion.
Pair,
You neglected to mention that he is 1-1.
ELI
Derek – Would Joe Montana have led the Eagles to a win over the Saints that game, given how poorly the Eagles’ defense and special teams played??? QB’s don’t win or lose games by themselves. Kolb played well enough to keep the Eagles in that game. But the defense couldn’t keep Brees off the field, and Hobbs’ fumbled KR to start the 2nd half was the back-breaking play of that game. All 3 of Kolb’s INTs came with the Saints leading by double-digits (2 INTs were in garbage time). 2 of the picks were bad throws…but Reid was calling pass on every play at that point. You neglected all of this.
Looking at post #7 of this thread, your exact words were “Kevin Kolb is incapable of leading this offense”. Are you still standing by this comment? Or do you admit that there’s a slight possibility that you got it wrong???
6SBR – Go back and read what I wrote about Kolb 2 weeks ago (see #’s 2, 6 & 8 above). All I said was to wait and see how Kolb did after working with the #1 unit and getting a gameplan before passing judgment. Everybody in this thread, yourself included, dismissed my reasoning. Derek, Dave and E-Money also pointed out in the podcast 2 weeks ago how bad Kolb was and/or how wrong I was for asking for patience. The consensus here was that Garcia would be running the offense by now. Garcia is going to be unemployed once McNabb is healthy.
Kolb has exceeded everyone’s expectations. He got the Eagles to the bye week with a solid performance, and a very good performance. Now, the Eagles don’t have to bring McNabb back until he’s 100%. After the bye, the Eagles have the Bucs in Week 5 and the Raiders in Week 6. If McNabb is not ready to go, I have no problem with Kolb starting those 2 games.
Give the Pair his due. He called it. Kolb has exceed even Pf’s expectations. So Pair, say the Eagles do start Kolb against TB and OAK, and he continues his streak of 300+ passing. With the Eagles sitting 4-1 riding a hot QB, whom would you start?
What’s up with your Phillies? 4 game lead with six to play. A Sunday game on the last day of the season against the Marlins. Sounds kinda familiar.
Pair,
I will admit that Montana would not have pulled out a win against the Saints with the Eagles’ defense coming up so lame.
However, I have to ask you to at least acknowledge that you don’t need a ton of talent at the QB position to beat the Chiefs.
So in this respect, it is a wash.
Nice try D-man, but that’s a cop-out, and you know it. When you use words like INCAPABLE, that means he can’t do it against anyone, period. You wrote Kolb off, based on what you saw from him in previous, limited action. You guys spent 10+ minutes on this thread’s podcast talking about how bad Kolb is. Now, you are trying to justify your position by saying it was only the Chiefs. Well guess what, after watching the first 3 weeks of the season, there are a LOT of defenses in the NFL on par with the Chiefs. The Eagles next 2 opponents are on par with the Chiefs.
If I have to acknowledge that the Chiefs are bad, then YOU must acknowledge that Kolb has looked exponentially better as a starter than he did in his 2 previous appearances in relief of McNabb. You’re not in a credible position to argue it any other way right now.
Kolb could have a clunker at some point, and I’m not predicting Kolb’s long-term career prospects, good, bad or otherwise. But you took the position that Kolb would NEVER be able to succeed. Look at the title of this thread. You wrote comments like “not a capable backup”, “a disaster” and “no other option” about Kolb.
There’s no “wash” here…you are WRONG.
Lets Go Mets – If Kolb starts the next 2 games and does well…I still bench him the minute McNabb is available. Kolb will have done his job, and would have 4 good starts under his belt, albeit against 4 mediocre defenses.
But like I said in the previous post, there are a lot of mediocre/bad defenses out there right now. Outside of Baltimore, Pittsburgh (with Polamalu) NYG, and maybe the Jets, there are not a lot of elite-level defenses. The on-field NFL product is probably as bad as it has been in the last 10 years. Which is why guys like Cassel last year, and Kolb this year, can step in and have effective starts.
As for the Phils, they should still hold on for the division. But they’re not looking at a long trip in the playoffs if they can’t get the pitching together. They peaked at the perfect time last year. Neither the bullpen nor the starters seem to be real effective right now.
Based on kolbs great numbers and great success, andy should call parcells and get a 1st round pick from miami.
Too late for that. KC traded Thigpen to Miami. But trading Kolb down the road is not so far-fetched. The Patriots got a lot for Cassel.
BTW 6sbrs, your sarcasm is stale and you’re not very good at using it. I just thought you should know.
“The Patriots got a lot for Cassel.”
The New England Patriots traded linebacker Mike Vrabel and quarterback Matt Cassel to the Kansas City Chiefs in exchange for the Chiefs second-round pick (34th overall) in the 2009 NFL Draft.
Kolb was a 2nd round pick (36th overall). If the Eagles get a 2nd round pick for Kolb and a player of Vrabel’s caliber (say Sheldon Brown) would you still consider it “a lot”?
Vrabel is a guy in the last year of his contract, and near the end of his career. Sheldon Brown has a much higher trade value than Vrabel. This is aside from the fact that CBs are a much more valued commodity around the NFL than OLBs are. Brown is probably worth a low 2/high 3 by himself right now.
Cassel was a 7th round pick. So yes, trading a former 7th round pick, plus an aging, soon-to-be free agent OLB for the 34th pick in the draft is “a lot”. Kolb + Brown would have to fetch a decent 1 for me to consider it “a lot”
I’m not advocating trading Kolb. But if the Eagles long-term plans don’t include Kolb, then trading him could be a possibility.
Garcia cut to make room for TROTTER. What do the Garcia fans on this site have to say???
Kold named nfc offensive player of the week.
“But trading Kolb down the road is not so far-fetched. The Patriots got a lot for Cassel.”
Obviously the Pats made out well, but Kolb was a 2nd round pick(reach) by the Eagles.
If K.C. paid a 2nd for Cassell and Vrabel, what do you think the Eagles could get for Kolb? Anything less than a first round pick would be a loss.
I don’t know what the Eagles could get for Kolb, and I doubt they are shopping him, now or in the near future. I agree that anything less than a 1st is not good value, considering where they drafted him. They could not get a 1 for him right now. But if he continues to perform well when he’s called upon, he could possibly rise to that level. There is a lot of crap out there at the QB position around the league. Campbell, Delhomme, Orton, Quinn, Edwards, Russell (talk about a bust), Collins, Garrard, Hill, and whoever is starting in Tampa at the moment. More than 1/3 of the starting QBs in the NFL are garbage.